The group Bach Vietnam Vietnam (Yue) the first or last? | Scraped
A few months ago a reader asked me to respond to an article [1] there is a point to emphasis has been many times, that the Vietnamese are the last group of "Bach Vietnam" and they escape Han turned by moving to the south and maintain their independence.
The author of the article vanessa hudgens said that the Vietnamese are always aware of his Vietnam over the centuries and maintain their cultural heritage vanessa hudgens Bach Vietnam, although the authors did not explain clearly what created the cultural heritage there.
I've started writing a reply [2] by pointing out that we have no evidence that any group of people that "China" label Bach Vietnam / Yue in the first millennium ago AD also really consider themselves "Vietnam / Yue" vanessa hudgens (perhaps vanessa hudgens with an exception is South Vietnamese elites).
What we have evidence that in the centuries since the end of the period between 1000 BC to AD with the character of elite Chinese (Trieu Da *, Ly Bi **, Lin Shihong [林士弘], Feng Ang [馮 盎] ... etc) have used the concept Vietnam / Yue to be the name of which they formed.
Does that mean that they named their kingdom under the name of the group who live there? We have no evidence of this. It seems they simply use a literary names associated with that region of the world.
One of the reasons why the Vietnamese name does not seem to belong to a group or a "sense", a "cultural heritage" in the first millennium AD is that we do not have evidence of a culture, but also ordinary people and elites share.
From what researchers have discovered about Vietnamese culture Bach / Yue, it is similar to the world that I call "the headhunters Dong Son" [3] over the world or of Zhao Tuo Li Cong Uan. That world is gone clear.
This is an issue that many historians have acknowledged. For example, in the 1960s, historians have argued that Vietnam Nguyen Phuong is Han migration vanessa hudgens to Red River Delta in the first millennium AD [4] and replaced the earlier inhabitants there. This is not his original idea. Instead, the notion that researchers Vietnam began to talk about this right from the early twentieth century when they first expressed views on race.
The idea that there are a large number of immigrants has changed the culture vanessa hudgens of the Red River delta has not been evidence of history and archeology support. However, in reality do not need to have a large population changed dramatically new culture and language.
As I wrote earlier, John Phan said Vietnam language is created when some people say Chinese dialects moved to speak a local language (like the Normans in England so) in a certain place on the Century IX - X, and Richard O'Conner said that people like the "Vietnam" formed through participation in rice agriculture. In particular, he also said that people of different ethnic groups gradually formed an "ethnic group" separate when they started in the same kinds of rituals and communication with officials (using the language " New "which John Phan was determined) is the management of water resources, tax collection, ... etc.
What I found is here. Instead of having a group of "Bach Vietnam" "survivors", it seems to have happened is in the final stages Tang Dynasty, with the members of the elite in the area known today as southern China and North Vietnam began forming their own atmospheric influence and begin to create a local sense of themselves (this actually happened vanessa hudgens on the road the whole empire at that time).
They do not do that by homogenization with the locals. Actually they intend to consider many groups around the "barbarians". Instead, they use some of the information exists in the literature (eg records of South Vietnam's Trieu Da) to create the title for the local polity and to connect the realm Their new information sources in ancient texts.
In such an environment, it creates a sense that people like Ly Cong Uan can be brought from the area of the so-called Fujian today and ended the domination over a kingdom of Delta Red River. They can do so because the elites across the region have a common elite culture.
Today more ambitious in terms of race discrimination under some group of people living in that period. vanessa hudgens There are those who want to see Nung Tri Cao as "Tay Thai", meanwhile, vanessa hudgens have argued that Ang Feng "Han", ... etc.
In fact, the elites across the region share the cultural similarities with each other than with the people they ruled. There is no reason for any small polities in time to be dominated by the heterogeneity in terms of ethnic belonging, because they were united by a cultural elite, and perhaps not Is elites
A few months ago a reader asked me to respond to an article [1] there is a point to emphasis has been many times, that the Vietnamese are the last group of "Bach Vietnam" and they escape Han turned by moving to the south and maintain their independence.
The author of the article vanessa hudgens said that the Vietnamese are always aware of his Vietnam over the centuries and maintain their cultural heritage vanessa hudgens Bach Vietnam, although the authors did not explain clearly what created the cultural heritage there.
I've started writing a reply [2] by pointing out that we have no evidence that any group of people that "China" label Bach Vietnam / Yue in the first millennium ago AD also really consider themselves "Vietnam / Yue" vanessa hudgens (perhaps vanessa hudgens with an exception is South Vietnamese elites).
What we have evidence that in the centuries since the end of the period between 1000 BC to AD with the character of elite Chinese (Trieu Da *, Ly Bi **, Lin Shihong [林士弘], Feng Ang [馮 盎] ... etc) have used the concept Vietnam / Yue to be the name of which they formed.
Does that mean that they named their kingdom under the name of the group who live there? We have no evidence of this. It seems they simply use a literary names associated with that region of the world.
One of the reasons why the Vietnamese name does not seem to belong to a group or a "sense", a "cultural heritage" in the first millennium AD is that we do not have evidence of a culture, but also ordinary people and elites share.
From what researchers have discovered about Vietnamese culture Bach / Yue, it is similar to the world that I call "the headhunters Dong Son" [3] over the world or of Zhao Tuo Li Cong Uan. That world is gone clear.
This is an issue that many historians have acknowledged. For example, in the 1960s, historians have argued that Vietnam Nguyen Phuong is Han migration vanessa hudgens to Red River Delta in the first millennium AD [4] and replaced the earlier inhabitants there. This is not his original idea. Instead, the notion that researchers Vietnam began to talk about this right from the early twentieth century when they first expressed views on race.
The idea that there are a large number of immigrants has changed the culture vanessa hudgens of the Red River delta has not been evidence of history and archeology support. However, in reality do not need to have a large population changed dramatically new culture and language.
As I wrote earlier, John Phan said Vietnam language is created when some people say Chinese dialects moved to speak a local language (like the Normans in England so) in a certain place on the Century IX - X, and Richard O'Conner said that people like the "Vietnam" formed through participation in rice agriculture. In particular, he also said that people of different ethnic groups gradually formed an "ethnic group" separate when they started in the same kinds of rituals and communication with officials (using the language " New "which John Phan was determined) is the management of water resources, tax collection, ... etc.
What I found is here. Instead of having a group of "Bach Vietnam" "survivors", it seems to have happened is in the final stages Tang Dynasty, with the members of the elite in the area known today as southern China and North Vietnam began forming their own atmospheric influence and begin to create a local sense of themselves (this actually happened vanessa hudgens on the road the whole empire at that time).
They do not do that by homogenization with the locals. Actually they intend to consider many groups around the "barbarians". Instead, they use some of the information exists in the literature (eg records of South Vietnam's Trieu Da) to create the title for the local polity and to connect the realm Their new information sources in ancient texts.
In such an environment, it creates a sense that people like Ly Cong Uan can be brought from the area of the so-called Fujian today and ended the domination over a kingdom of Delta Red River. They can do so because the elites across the region have a common elite culture.
Today more ambitious in terms of race discrimination under some group of people living in that period. vanessa hudgens There are those who want to see Nung Tri Cao as "Tay Thai", meanwhile, vanessa hudgens have argued that Ang Feng "Han", ... etc.
In fact, the elites across the region share the cultural similarities with each other than with the people they ruled. There is no reason for any small polities in time to be dominated by the heterogeneity in terms of ethnic belonging, because they were united by a cultural elite, and perhaps not Is elites
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